Hollywood.com - September 9, 2011
Stellan SkarsgŚrd Talks
"Thor,' 'The Avengers,' 'Dragon Tattoo' and More! Hollywood.com -
September 9, 2011
Stellan SkarsgŚrd is the type of actor you recognize instantly after
seeing him, but whose body of work is so vast, so varied, that
remembering his "stand role" may prove difficult. The Swedish actor has
been working for over forty years, starring in a great number films
produced in his home country as well as Hollywood fare like The Hunt for
Red October, Good Will Hunting, Amistad and the Pirates of the Caribbean
franchise (not to mention he helped spawn one of today's biggest
This summer, SkarsgŚrd appeared in the Marvel comic book tentpole Thor
as Erik Selvig, a scientist with a little background in Norse mythology.
As anyone who saw the movie can attest, the actor's role quickly became
a vital part of the Marvel movie mythology, so I jumped at the chance to
chat it up about the film as well as some of his other upcoming
You have a ton on your plate at the moment. Thor hitting Blu-ray,
obviously, and now Dragon Tattoo and Melancholia coming out this year.
Are you busier than ever? Or have you shot them over a period of time
that just worked out that way?
Actually, I work this much all the time. But a lot of the films I do are
small independent films that donít get that much attention. But the big
Hollywood productions crowd themselves at the finishing lineÖ
Do you go out of your way to try to balance that work?
I definitely have a policy of going between the big Hollywood films, and
then going backóI even try to help finance small projects, sometimes,
with first-time directors.
Artistic balance is important! When you came on board with Thor, what
was your familiarity with both the mythic Thor and the comic book Thor?
He has a legacy in both worlds.
In Scandinavia, I donít think Thor was very bigóbut the Marvel Comics
were very big in Scandinavia.
Yeah, but heís also quite a distance from the mythology that I know from
Scandinavia. I wasnít that familiar with it. And I said to Kevin Feige
[Marvel Producer] the first time I met him, 'These comic books are from
the fifties and sixties. Does this really play?' And he just looked at
me as if I was an idiot. Which I was. And then he gave me a stack of the
modern magazinesóor the books, actuallyóand I thought, 'Okay. This is
something totally different.' Something I had no idea existed.
How is Thor perceived in Scandinavia? As a character or the idea of
Some people still believe it. They wear a Thor hammer around their neck,
looking back to the glorious days before Christianity. But I donít think
heís very vivid in the minds of Scandinavians. Not even as vivid as the
fictional Thor is in the Americansí.
As you mentioned, these comic book movies can come off as a little
silly. Thor is especially fantastical. But then you have someone like
Kenneth Branagh, who has directed Shakespeare, who brings some gravitas
to this project. How did he go out of his way to ground it for you, or
bring you into the reality?
I was impressed when I heard that he was going to do it. And I was
impressed when I heard that he wanted me in it. But the success of the
Marvel enterpriseóif these movies would have been done fifteen, twenty
years ago, every dime would have been spent on special effects. They
would have been great for the fans, but nobody else would have wanted to
see them. But now, they get the best directors, the best writers, the
best actors, and they suddenly become fantastic films. So, I think that
Marvelís interest in attracting quality and talent to those stories have
made them so much more appealing to people who donít even know about the
How do you go about crafting character in a giant film like this, as
opposed to in some of the smaller movies you were talking about? Is it
the same kind of process for you?
Basically, itís the same thing. Especially if you work with a director
like Kenneth Branagh, who is very much interested in the actors and
building characters and relationships. First of all, you try to figure
out, 'What do I have to do to make the character work for the film?'
That is the framework so that you donít come up with things that are
counterproductive to the film. And then, within that realm, you can be
pretty free. And you sort of invent things and try things. You want to
create a character that shows different sides and becomes three
dimensional. Thatís the hard work. Especially if itís an action-packed
film where you sort of have to squeeze the psychology in between the
Was there anything that you tried that didnít seem to work within the
reality of the movie?
No, I donít think so. But it was like we shot two movies. We were
competing with realities. We were shooting a normal film in New Mexico
for a month, when suddenly, three people in funny clothes show up on the
set. Itís 'The Warriors Three,' and your immediate reaction is, 'This is
not going to work.'
Itís like a circus!
Yeah, thereís a circus in town. One of the big achievements that Kenneth
managed to pull off was to marry those two realities to each other in a
believable way. Of course, it is fantastic. We were doing Shakespeare up
in Asgard, and down on Earth we were playing something much more
Was your character always envisioned as sort of a through-line? The
Marvel movies are so connected to one another, especially with The
Avengers bringing it all together. Was your character always that
through-line? Because we have that tag scene at the end that brings you
into the next part. Was that always the idea?
That was not an original idea. Whenever you sign up for Marvel, you sign
up for a number of films. But they were not ready with the plot of
Avengers when we shot Thor. So, they came to me last fall, I think, and
said, 'Weíre thinking about bringing [Professor Eric] Selvig into The
Avengers as well. Will you do it?' And then I met with Joss [Whedon],
and saw some pages, and here I am.
So are you in the midst of shooting that right now?
The second of September, I will do [my] last day on Avengers.
How are these experiences different for you, from working on Thor to
going into this movie?
Well, itís a much smaller role here, so I didnít have that much material
to do. Also, we are a number of actors trying to share screen time. And
we all want to be in the center of attention. No, but itís very
different. Of course, Jossí temperament is different from Kennethís. He
comes from a different background. Heís not an actor and he doesnít come
from Shakespeare. He comes from comic books, and that world. But itís
lovely to work with him and I think heís doing a very good job.
How are Joss' ways of directing different from Kennethís?
Well, he gets happier faster than Kenneth did.
He loves it all.
No, not quite. But he doesnít do many takes. Heís sort of like, 'Yeah,
yeah! Thatís exactly what I need! Iím happy.'
At the end of Thor, you have something bad inside of you. And so
thisóit might be a smaller partóbut is it drastically different from how
you were playing Eric in the first film?
Iím under Lokiís spell, which means I can play [him] as weird as I want.
Was that fun?
I appreciated the liberty.
With the movies that you have coming up for the rest of the yearóworking
with guys like David Fincher, Lars von Trieróhow are these experiences
drastically different? I assume that theyíre smaller films than Thor.
But when you work with directors like that, how are the relationships
different? How do things change from your angle?
Itís like sleeping with different women. The personal relationship is
always different. Both Trier and Fincher are directors that I really
like a lot. Trier and I go back many years; heís a very much beloved
friend. They are both some of the most skilled directors in the world.
But the way of working is totally different, of course. There are
different techniques. Theyíre both aiming for something beautiful, and
they usually get it. Itís a great pleasure and much fun to be part of
that process. And none of them are the kind of directors who have
decided at home every detail of how the shots should be. They try it
out. Fisher with a more steady camera, more controlled. And Lars with
his handheld camera. As an actor, youíre free to try.
Did you see the original Dragon Tattoo movies? Or did you read the book
before doing this one?
Iíve seen the original film, yeah.
Is this drastically different, do you feel?
I mean, itís based on the same book. Itís not based on the previous
film. So, itís another attempt to film the book, you might say. And itís
written by Steve Zaillian, who is one of the best writers we have, and
directed by Fincher, who is one of the best directors.
So do you feel that it will be tonally different?